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Md. smoking ban smolders
AP via Wilmington (DE)News Journal ^ | 2/21/04 | By TOM STUCKEY

Posted on 02/22/2004 8:52:42 AM PST by Gabz

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:01:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

ANNAPOLIS, Md. -- Legislation that would have banned smoking in most indoor public places in Maryland, including restaurants and bars, died in a Senate committee Friday on a 6-5 vote.

The bill would have repealed most of the exceptions contained in the anti-smoking regulations adopted during the administration of former Gov. William Donald Schaefer that prohibited smoking in most enclosed places where people work.


(Excerpt) Read more at delawareonline.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Delaware; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: antismokers; cigarettes; pufflist; smoking; smokingbans
And another one down, another one gone, and another one bites the dust!!!!!!!!!!
1 posted on 02/22/2004 8:52:43 AM PST by Gabz
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To: SheLion
BUMP
2 posted on 02/22/2004 8:53:55 AM PST by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: ServesURight; *puff_list; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Madame Dufarge; MeeknMing; ..
Thanks for the ping!

Puff

3 posted on 02/22/2004 8:55:16 AM PST by SheLion (Curiosity killed the cat BUT satisfaction brought her back!!!)
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To: Gabz
BUMP!
4 posted on 02/22/2004 8:55:34 AM PST by EggsAckley ({....YES... I AM THE HATED......troll patrol.....(on duty).....})
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To: *puff_list; SheLion; Just another Joe; Max McGarrity; lockjaw02; metesky; Madame Dufarge; ...
He said four restaurants have closed and some smaller taverns have lost 30 percent to 50 percent of their business since a Montgomery County ban took effect in October.

What happened in Montgomery County is common anywhere and everywhere a smoking ban takes effect. The proponents of these bans want to make it appear otherwise and so play fast and loose with number in an effort to make it appear that hospitality industry business increases with these bans........they don't.

I know the bar and restaurant owners on Maryland's Eastern shore were not happy with this proposal - they have seen such an increase in business since the Delaware ban went into effect - they don't want to lose their new customers.

5 posted on 02/22/2004 8:58:22 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: ServesURight; SheLion
You are quick!!!!!!!!!!!!
6 posted on 02/22/2004 8:59:10 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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1000 lives would be saved this year if it passed,according to Ida Rubin.

More figures pulled out of a hat and not challenged.I would like to see her prove it.

It's almost funny----think about it. If everyone in the world stopped smoking today NO ONE WOULD DIE!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 02/22/2004 9:31:25 AM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen---caviar and cigarettes.)
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To: Gabz
"If they had passed it this year, there would be another 1,000 lives they would save," she said.

Show me the studies that "prove" this, their funding sources and the death certificates of the thousands who have "second-hand smoke" listed as their cause of death.

8 posted on 02/22/2004 9:36:14 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge; Mears
Bloominidiot used the exact same number about the NYC smoking ban.

The antis did a "poll" in Delaware about the ban that said more than 70% favored a smoking ban. They got the same results with a similarly funding "poll" in Pennsylvania.

In Delaware, a state with a population of just under 800,000 people they claimed to have polled 500. In Pennsylvania, a state of many millions, they claimed to have polled 700. Talking about skewed numbers.
9 posted on 02/22/2004 9:43:13 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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The deciding vote was cast by Sen. Thomas V. Middleton, D-Charles, chairman of the Finance Committee, who said he had been lobbied heavily on the bill and had "gotten lots and lots of e-mails."

"The advocates for this legislation made a very good case," Middleton said, even as he voted to kill the bill.
The advocates for this legislation lie through their teeth using corrupt junk science. All this temporary reprieve means is that we have to do a better job at exposing the junk.
10 posted on 02/22/2004 9:44:39 AM PST by lockjaw02 ("Man's capacity for self-deception is unlimited." --George H Tausch)
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So true, so true.
11 posted on 02/22/2004 9:48:25 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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and from waiters and waitresses who told the committee that working in smoke-filled restaurants and bars threatens their health.

They're either lying about this or the waiters and waitresses have drunk the kool-aid.

12 posted on 02/22/2004 10:57:35 AM PST by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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They are cherry-picked by the anti smoker groups.

Several staff members in places I know in Delaware were approached by the antis...everyone, including the non-smokers, told them to hit the road because they did not want to lose their smoking customers who tended to be better tippers than the snooty anti-smokers.........even in non-smoking establishments.
13 posted on 02/22/2004 11:06:50 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Gabz
Several staff members in places I know in Delaware were approached by the antis...everyone, including the non-smokers, told them to hit the road because they did not want to lose their smoking customers who tended to be better tippers than the snooty anti-smokers.........even in non-smoking establishments.

Last time I was in a restaurant in this area, our non-smoking waitress said she wished they still had the smoking section (which was practically hermetically sealed) back. Tips and business had tanked since the smoking ban.

14 posted on 02/22/2004 1:53:54 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
That doesn't surprise me - although you know the antis will call you a liar.............
15 posted on 02/22/2004 8:42:48 PM PST by Gabz (The tobacco industry doesn't fund smokers - they don't care about their customers)
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"He said he will work with anti-smoking groups to encourage restaurants to voluntarily prohibit smoking, and promote those who do go smoke free."

There is so much idiocy in this article that I am amazed. It was a hard choice to pick this one comment. While I applaud this guys vote, he did it for all the wrong reasons. He didn't do it out of respect for private property and liberty, he did it because he was lobbied and received e-mails. At least his constituents understand freedom. In addition, he follows up with government marketing advantages handed to one type of business but not the other. He is an idiot that governs with a finger in the air!
16 posted on 02/23/2004 5:10:31 AM PST by CSM (My Senator is so stupid he'd have to get naked to count to 21 and my Governor wouldn't be able to!)
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To: Mears
That means that Minnesota represents 33% of all SHS related deaths (claim of 3,000) nationwide. If we just outlawed smoking in the 3 states that have all the deaths, think of the lives saved!
17 posted on 02/23/2004 5:12:08 AM PST by CSM (My Senator is so stupid he'd have to get naked to count to 21 and my Governor wouldn't be able to!)
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Good with the math,CSM,but these idiots just can't seem to figure it out.

Toss out a figure,any figure,and that's good enough for them.
18 posted on 02/23/2004 8:14:26 AM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen---caviar and cigarettes.)
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